Nevinryal
Glowstone
- Joined
- Jan 24, 2013
Note: For those of you who aren't up for long posts, you've been warned. Also, prepare your tldr's. (You're going to need them)
I don't know about all the different aspects or concerns. I don't know what direction staff should take or whether it is even their concern to gives a rats about the decision some people make in regards to who they give access to, why or when. I agree with what dsaw said primarily that this has degraded down to o chat ranting/running gag lvl and will most likely never be resolved.
I don't know what the best course of action really is, or what to think of staff for their actions or inactions in regards to this matter. Honestly, I've only known ken for a short time but in that time have never seen any reason that he would deserve this to happen to them. He's always been helpful, polite, and an easy player to get along with so why anyone would feel it was right to do this to him is beyond me.
Honestly, I don't know what is more disappointing, the fact that Ruger totally item raped him for well, essentially nothing. Or that staff is totally okay with this behavior, direct rule violation or not. Maybe you guys have a gun to your heads? Maybe there really is nothing more than to say, thanks for participating on our server. We heard that an active contributing player got done totally wrong but hey. Check out them loot crates!
I do see the point in ken trying to restate a precedent case, or 3 rather. The point is to paint an image on how areas in this grey list went in the past.
The thing is maybe Ken isn't the most articulate person, or maybe Angy and Danda spent more time concerned with the person who obviously got screwed hardcore and they were more geared in spending time getting some sort of justice. Danda didn't HAVE to ban the offender but he did. Not permanently, but until the items could be arranged to be returned.
In the first ban, Danda steps up to the plate and compromises. In the second case, Danda steps up again, starts to point the finger based on the evidence, and EVEN THEN gives the perp the fair chance to defend his actions. Ultimately the guy seems to have lied but at least the effort was put in. You can argue semantics but Danda makes it clear that 3.3.1 You may not steal from fellow town members.
Ruger was a member of sentinel for quite some time and ken welcomed everyone from town to enjoy what he had. The majority of people invited were in fact from Sentinel and I don't believe for even a moment that if Ken knew he was going to get robbed he would have invited Ruger in the first place.
In the third and final post, it clearly shows Danda stepping up and punishing SirDemonic regardless of whatever was said or not said based on the items, that were removed from the chests not being put in directly by him. The kid was banned for 2 weeks, and I don't recall it being an issue since.
Honestly, these posts no matter how you CHOOSE to interpret them show that Danda, as a staff member showed GENUINE INTEREST in the issue at hand. I believe that Kenster does deserve some sort of action if not to cut and dry obey the rules than at the very least to discourage this type of behavior in an already questionable server state. Do we honestly need to ask if what happened with his plot was wrong? Seriously?
In the end, I'm not staff and you have free reign over whatever does or does not happen. All I see is a player of this server done wrong, someone who spent the time and effort to actually obtain a plot, try to have fun with people who should have been friends and then get screwed publicly. If nothing is done about this I have to assume that Staff are more concerned with Ruger, don't mind if this behavior continues, or simply just don't care. And don't worry, there's nothing we can do about that if so. (Sorry Ken) But at one point, just looking at those posts, Danda might have. =(
I don't know about all the different aspects or concerns. I don't know what direction staff should take or whether it is even their concern to gives a rats about the decision some people make in regards to who they give access to, why or when. I agree with what dsaw said primarily that this has degraded down to o chat ranting/running gag lvl and will most likely never be resolved.
I don't know what the best course of action really is, or what to think of staff for their actions or inactions in regards to this matter. Honestly, I've only known ken for a short time but in that time have never seen any reason that he would deserve this to happen to them. He's always been helpful, polite, and an easy player to get along with so why anyone would feel it was right to do this to him is beyond me.
Honestly, I don't know what is more disappointing, the fact that Ruger totally item raped him for well, essentially nothing. Or that staff is totally okay with this behavior, direct rule violation or not. Maybe you guys have a gun to your heads? Maybe there really is nothing more than to say, thanks for participating on our server. We heard that an active contributing player got done totally wrong but hey. Check out them loot crates!
I do see the point in ken trying to restate a precedent case, or 3 rather. The point is to paint an image on how areas in this grey list went in the past.
The thing is maybe Ken isn't the most articulate person, or maybe Angy and Danda spent more time concerned with the person who obviously got screwed hardcore and they were more geared in spending time getting some sort of justice. Danda didn't HAVE to ban the offender but he did. Not permanently, but until the items could be arranged to be returned.
In the first ban, Danda steps up to the plate and compromises. In the second case, Danda steps up again, starts to point the finger based on the evidence, and EVEN THEN gives the perp the fair chance to defend his actions. Ultimately the guy seems to have lied but at least the effort was put in. You can argue semantics but Danda makes it clear that 3.3.1 You may not steal from fellow town members.
Ruger was a member of sentinel for quite some time and ken welcomed everyone from town to enjoy what he had. The majority of people invited were in fact from Sentinel and I don't believe for even a moment that if Ken knew he was going to get robbed he would have invited Ruger in the first place.
In the third and final post, it clearly shows Danda stepping up and punishing SirDemonic regardless of whatever was said or not said based on the items, that were removed from the chests not being put in directly by him. The kid was banned for 2 weeks, and I don't recall it being an issue since.
Honestly, these posts no matter how you CHOOSE to interpret them show that Danda, as a staff member showed GENUINE INTEREST in the issue at hand. I believe that Kenster does deserve some sort of action if not to cut and dry obey the rules than at the very least to discourage this type of behavior in an already questionable server state. Do we honestly need to ask if what happened with his plot was wrong? Seriously?
In the end, I'm not staff and you have free reign over whatever does or does not happen. All I see is a player of this server done wrong, someone who spent the time and effort to actually obtain a plot, try to have fun with people who should have been friends and then get screwed publicly. If nothing is done about this I have to assume that Staff are more concerned with Ruger, don't mind if this behavior continues, or simply just don't care. And don't worry, there's nothing we can do about that if so. (Sorry Ken) But at one point, just looking at those posts, Danda might have. =(
