Suggestion Dragoon - Stamina Costs

[OldUser2025]

So yeah my friend @ethanburger is a Dragoon and we where 1v1ing on test as goons and I realizerd, dam it has high stam costs!
Like jump Is at 4 stamina bars, I think that's to high just for an example, but I think balance should take a look at al their skills and adjust stamina costs, tbh other then that goon is in a great spot!

 

[Ahrall]

Jump should have a high stamina cost. It is a low cooldown, free form targeting, forward facing, massive leap. Basically the best mobility skill in the game by a long shot. Having a large stamina costs forces goons to think "do I jump immediately and have less stamina for damage?"
If they could jump and still have enough stamina to pelt you with all of their skills there would be no decision making involved

 

[Jrr_]

Jump is fine but attacking skills need a look at:
Dragon Dash: Current (400) New (300)
Disarm: Current (400) New (300)
Bash: Current (350) New (300)

I think this would work well because you can only to a max of 2 skills before you can't sprint which kills you again mages who kite.

 

[OldUser2025]

Jump should have a high stamina cost. It is a low cooldown, free form targeting, forward facing, massive leap. Basically the best mobility skill in the game by a long shot. Having a large stamina costs forces goons to think "do I jump immediately and have less stamina for damage?"
If they could jump and still have enough stamina to pelt you with all of their skills there would be no decision making involved

yeah jump was a bad example, but jrr's are pretty good

 

[TimForReal]

Got to admit, I am terribly stamina starved in every fight. Even without using jump. When I lose the ability to sprint, it's basically gg - no skills and no melee attacks.

 

[OldUser2025]

Got to admit, I am terribly stamina starved in every fight. Even without using jump. When I lose the ability to sprint, it's basically gg - no skills and no melee attacks.

Yeah playing goon on test made me realized....... jump spear impale is their basic chase right? So they use that then no sprinting? Seems legit

edit* forgot dragon dash but I mean that could substitute spear or jump

 

[TimForReal]

Yeah playing goon on test made me realized....... jump spear impale is their basic chase right? So they use that then no sprinting? Seems legit

edit* forgot dragon dash but I mean that could substitute spear or jump

DragonDash can be very unreliable, sometimes leaving you further from the target than you already were.

 

[I_Love_Miners]

Got to admit, I am terribly stamina starved in every fight. Even without using jump. When I lose the ability to sprint, it's basically gg - no skills and no melee attacks.

so don't spam your skills

 

[TimForReal]

so don't spam your skills

It's not even spamming skills. There's no rotation with the current stam costs, you can basically use pStrike and melee or you're starved.

 

[Dsawemd]

@Balance Team Lets take a look

 

[OldUser2025]

@Balance Team Lets take a look

tyvm Jinxie Cat

 

[Delfofthebla]

People have been complaining about Dragoon since I joined the server, and probably long before it too. The fact that the class has super high mobility and can either chase or run from any fight it wishes is something that people have never been comfortable with.

The easiest way for me to quell the cries of the masses was to increase their stamina costs by large amounts. This would attach weight to their actions. If they are fighting, they are less likely to be able to run away whenever they want, due to the extreme stamina costs. With the addition of Diamond "eating" into the game, this became even more necessary.

I don't know if things have gotten worse on that front or not (from what I've been hearing, they have), so I can't really say.

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However, since SuperJump was removed, there is little point in trying to maintain balance, as the class is dead to me. Do what you wish. Delete it if you want. Make all of their costs 0, or 10. Whatevs.

 

[I_Love_Miners]

did they recently increase stam cost of things? i've never really had any complaints about stamina with dragoons

 

[OldUser2025]

did they recently increase stam cost of things? i've never really had any complaints about stamina with dragoons

Yes

 

[I_Love_Miners]

what did they change? did they implement that mining fatigue thing? which is hoooooorseshit

 

[CoolBeans279]

@Balance Team Lets take a look

Please do.

The way i see it, not so hard of a fix, lower stamina cost on a few skills.

And for a lvl 70 skill (when thats added) SUPERJUMP! but have to be out of combat.

 

[Jrr_]

@xMJay

 

[Yavool]

Please do.

The way i see it, not so hard of a fix, lower stamina cost on a few skills.

And for a lvl 70 skill (when thats added) SUPERJUMP! but have to be out of combat.

Agreed that superjump should be brought back. Out of combat is a good way to balance it.

 

[CoolBeans279]

Agreed that superjump should be brought back. Out of combat is a good way to balance it.

and imo it fit dragoon so well, in combat it was kinda bs because you can just get out of any fight, now making it out of combat only would be perfect.

EDIT: Also, dragondash... its so shitty and buggy xD